tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235419263414453422.post137983230103047957..comments2024-02-23T01:30:06.101-08:00Comments on Early Warning: A Couple of Notes on Global Futures 2045Stuart Stanifordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07182839827506265860noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235419263414453422.post-20528850123022065282013-06-05T07:19:38.996-07:002013-06-05T07:19:38.996-07:00Further separation from the 4.5 billion years that...Further separation from the 4.5 billion years that got us here. I wish to connect those dots much more than I would ever wish to increase my connections and identity with the machine. Such spore mongering into the cyber mind strengthens and reinforces my faith in the wild seeds of our origins. seatetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00887749134195958206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235419263414453422.post-4131349421747604852013-06-05T05:23:35.557-07:002013-06-05T05:23:35.557-07:00"I am increasingly struck by the overtly spir..."I am increasingly struck by the overtly spiritual language being used by techno-optimist singularity thinkers."<br /><br />I already told you AI/singularity is nothing but the vulgar ultra utilitarianist version of the messianic myth, no wonder they get more desperate as the days goes by.yvesThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00225964326142677776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235419263414453422.post-6449432762542325372013-06-04T20:50:40.572-07:002013-06-04T20:50:40.572-07:00Every story has to end sometimes.
I used to have ...Every story has to end sometimes.<br /><br />I used to have what I considered to be weird thoughts. Not about sex or anything, but the nature of time.<br /><br />I'm not particularly interested in a lecture on physics, but I consider the past to be... real for want of another word. You might not can ever travel there, but it is still there somewhere. After all, what makes this moment any more special than that one?<br /><br />It's just enough that something was.<br /><br />To my surprise I found there is actually a name for this. I can't remember what it was, but apparently just about anything has been thought of already.<br /><br />That is a long winded way to say I find all this fear of death irrational in a way.<br /><br />Living forever isn't much of a story.sunbeamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04973635024133927262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235419263414453422.post-55255899695926460332013-06-04T19:37:50.471-07:002013-06-04T19:37:50.471-07:00I'd also add that it isn't surprising in t...I'd also add that it isn't surprising in the least that this endeavor is the product of a man without a significant other and/or children in his life.<br /><br />If he had either, but especially children, I think he'd find a lot more purpose in life, realize that machines are not the end all answer to his problems, and not fear being "gone" so much after he was dead.<br /><br />He's a bit of a Peter Pan actually.Stephen B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00746137367376861899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235419263414453422.post-14413498623606210412013-06-04T16:45:41.586-07:002013-06-04T16:45:41.586-07:00I know enough about this life to know that those p...I know enough about this life to know that those people don't know what they are talking about.<br /><br />If I had the choice to continue living this biological existence to it's normal end or make the jump into some kind of android container and live forever, I think I'd remain in the former, at least until I was on my death bed. There after, I'd live in the android container, envious of the still biological humans I should think.<br /><br />Take away the joys of eating good food, some perhaps grown in your own back yard, watching and listening to the birds fly around the pond, occasionally landing in the fruit trees I planted, or smelling the freshly turned compost pile, knowing that I am part of this huge biological existence and sharing it with kids and others, gives me meaning and joy. I try to imagine being contained in some kind of non-biological body and sitting out in the backyard sun on a similar day, or paddling a kayak on Moosehead Lake or Lake Winnipesaukee...but once I am apart from all that in body, what is the worth of sitting there as some kind of android?<br /><br />Live forever, disconnected from the Nature that is earth - are they mad? The human mind and consciousness hasn't begun to evolve enough to survive away from all that. What would my consciousness entertain itself with as a substitute? Should I sit in some techno-vault pondering some higher order mathematics problem or plugging into XBox 10 - for how long? Maybe some human minds can be happy with that artificial existence, but not this one. Putting the overly technical, artificial life I used to live behind me has been key to restoring happiness to this existence.<br /><br />And then, what of love, intimacy, and, umm, sex?<br /><br />They assume that there is something better, more fulfilling, more purposeful, and more moral to be discovered and enjoyed. Maybe they're wrong! <br /><br />Hubristic? I should say so!Stephen B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00746137367376861899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235419263414453422.post-55312668818549825302013-06-04T14:06:41.540-07:002013-06-04T14:06:41.540-07:00Our main problem right now is to rely more on mach...Our main problem right now is to rely more on machinery than we can afford at this point. Making us even more reliant on machinery is not going to help that.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05369791873392668070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235419263414453422.post-68239227303758124782013-06-04T13:30:27.967-07:002013-06-04T13:30:27.967-07:00I agree, very religious and fanatical overtones. T...I agree, very religious and fanatical overtones. They are beginning to sound Harold Camping-esk to me with dates and all. Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09594942287809274221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5235419263414453422.post-80399121504703445772013-06-04T11:54:35.913-07:002013-06-04T11:54:35.913-07:00I agree - I'm a denizen of the first-world ble...I agree - I'm a denizen of the first-world blessed with a more security than most third-world citizens could ever imagine. But I'm no less fearful/greedy and continue to amass ever more trappings of security. Nor has my purview of concern greatly increased beyond the tribal level - I care for the welfare of family, friends and people I associate with and more distantly those I most readily identify with. A billionaire CEO isn't freed from the every day greed and fear of being human simply by having more wealth and security than can be possibly useful. Dimitry Itskov may be the exception which simply proves the rule. I don't think being freed of the death or the concerns of the "mortal coil" will cause our mental and spiritual patterns to shift notably - they will simply map onto new topologies.<br /><br />I have some friends in the city - if you don't find a couch to surf, let me know and I'll do my best to locate one.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12250785811384640662noreply@blogger.com